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This is so sad. I thought the whole paper mail infrastructure was essentially eternal due to its importance.
Letter numbers have fallen since the start of the century from 1.4 billion to 110 million last year.
110 million is still A LOT of paper letters. Shame the service will be gone.
PostNord has weathered years of financial struggles and last year was running a deficit.
Again, I thought this was a national strategic resource, regardless of profit. Over here in europe’s armpit the national post has been running at a loss for nigh on 40 years, and it’s still kept afloat, for better or worse.
I agree with what you’re saying and also it feels worth pointing out how pervasive the rhetoric of profitability has become.
We don’t talk about the military running at a loss, or the department of transport, or any other part of the government. We talk about their cost, because that’s really what it is. Services don’t “lose” money, they cost money.
Yeah, every public service now has to turn a profit except for highways and extra lanes
It’s deemed no longer a national strategic resource since it’s now used so little, and plenty of alternatives exist. That’s why they decided to privatise it, and subsequently close it down when the privatised letter delivery was unable to turn a profit.
Yeah but now much of the 110 million is just spam, scams and advertisements?
This is bad for any card secondary market, think magic the gathering or pokemon. Usually you send or receive singles or maybe 5 cards at most as a letter, now this needs to be a package i guess.
I would also echo the fears of a throughly digitalized society
Letters can be send as packages instead. They already are, because the letters are more expensive. This is the main reason for why the postal service is no longer financially viable. It was privatized and outcompeted.
I believe the price for shipments is artificially low. It’s not reasonable that I can order boxes from China cheaper and faster than delivering a letter across town.
Privatization of the postal service in Denmark (and Sweden) was a terrible mistake, and the perpetrators should be held accountable.
Yeah, postnord fucking sucks. We could have gotten lucky with something better, but it was pretty clear from the start this wouldn’t go well, IMO.
And the UK, anywhere else?
Are there any danes here, that could chime in? The idea of having an almost entirely digitized society feels so scary to me. Everything having mobile apps, no cash? Feels like a horror story given the implications on privacy. I couldn’t even run most of the the so called secure apps on my lineageOS. My bank knowing exactly when I payed how much money for what would be so dystopian to me. Are there other methods available to protect your privacy in Denmark? Or does there truly not anyone give a shit about their digital footprint?
There is still cash, as well as a national credit card provider.
Digital footprint is not something many people are concerned about. Possibly this has something to do with the strict protections offered by GDPR. Digital processes have also been normalised after all interactions with the state became digital. Trust in the state is high.
Not saying people shouldn’t be concerned, they just don’t seem to be.
Dane here.
Indeed it’s essentially impossible to minimise your digital footprint because there is no cash.
there is no cash
This is false. Cash still exists and can be used in a wide range of businesses. It may not be the norm, but it definitely still exists.
And, what if the US block MasterCard and visa in Europe?
We have a national system called danlort, which is used by most people.
We also have a 100% danish phone payment system called MobilePay that is almost universally accepted,So Visa is only necessary for international trade.
And we absolutely still have cash, which is legal tender, meaning cash can’t be refused as payment.
They have their own national credit card provider, DanKort.
This is so blatantly false, IDK how any Dane could believe this???
We do absolutely have cash, and it’s legal tender, which means cash can’t be refused as payment.
Except we also have an anti corruption law, which states we can’t make cash payments above $3000.
So that’s kind of weird?
