Step 1: don’t
It appears that these countries now have some form of warning associated with travelling to the USA:
- Australia
- Belgium
- Canada
- Denmark
- Finland
- France
- Germany
- Ireland
- Mexico
- Netherlands
- New Zealand
- Norway
- Portugal
- United Kingdom
Sure are a lot of 5eyes countries in that list. I’m pretty sure we don’t have closer allies than that. Well aside from Russia now
I wish it were so easy. I’ll be going there later this year because family. Ugh
I’d make them come to me unless it was someone on their deathbed. A literal life or death scenario.
You can always get a new family if you’re not in prison
Don’t visit unless it is a life or death situation. I wouldn’t want to go into country that wants to finger print me, hand over social media, and copy my devices.
Wired is lost. If you dont offer up credible social media accounts or if you have a wiped phone, they probably wont let you in. These people still believe that the rules apply but they simply dont. There are no guarantees.
You can tell that to
Ryan Lackey has traveled to countries like Russia or China[;] he has taken certain precautions: Instead of his usual gear, the Seattle-based security researcher and chief security officer of a cryptocurrency insurance firm brings a locked-down Chromebook and an iPhone that’s set up to sync with a separate, nonsensitive Apple account. He wipes both before every trip and loads only the minimum data he’ll need. Lackey has gone so far as to keep separate travel sets for each country, so that he can forensically analyze the devices when he gets home to check for signs of each country’s tampering.
Now, Lackey says, the countries that warrant that paranoid approach to travel might include not just Russia and China but also the United States
Thats what he wrote right after your quote, implying that he hasnt tested it. Also this level of paranoia was always justified for US travel and he surely knows that. The thing is that the US is now probably worse than Russia or China when it comes to the chance for random people to be arrested. For political activists its probably equally likely but the survival chance in the US is still higher.
I doubt that the US restricts entry based on speech more than China.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained
A French scientist was denied entry to the US this month after immigration officers at an airport searched his phone and found messages in which he had expressed criticism of the Trump administration, said a French minister.
It barely gets worse than this. This wasnt even for public statements, it was private messages. The only difference between this and China might be the scale at which it happens, but that is kind of hard to track.
A fucking Chromebook lmao
I mean it is quite locked down and something cheap enough for the nonce.
Pretty funny in the US context tho, I’d imagine it wouldn’t be too hard for them to get google to “help”
The purpose isn’t to keep them out of your devices. The purpose is to have none of your critical data on it when they inevitably search/copy the data.
A Chromebook is really easy to wipe/reset and switch between accounts. Plus they’re relatively cheap.
Am i fucked if i haven’t posted on facebook since like 2014?
I’ll actively try to avoid that. There’s been a time in which I thought it could have been interesting to visit that country, but the time has passed.
It’s so sad. We have a beautiful country and most people are very nice.
Got to be really deranged to vote for a candidate that ran on a platform of revenge and hate, and there’s at the minimum 70 million of those types of Americans which outnumbers many individual countries. Americans suck and don’t seem nice. Too many bad apples.
If you listen to the conservative messages closely, most of them are crafted in a way that sounds positive, not evil. Then what’s evil and can’t be shown any other way gets framed as the necessary evil to make those positive messages come to be.
The left goes very similar route, speaking of equality, freedom, love, and then coming up with something like “the world would be a better place if rich feared for their lives”. Might be true, but it’s the necessary evil again.
So, it’s not that those people choose to be evil, they just grew with one set of convictions that portrays left as unwilling to see the truth or to accept the sacrifices necessary to make the place better overall (in their eyes). And, similarly, far left that wants to overthrow or radically change the system is seen by the right as a massive evil force willing to destroy the country that took centuries to build a system that led people to where they are now - in relative prosperity and peace.
That is not to say they are correct in their thinking - there are massive flaws in their logic - but when you’re committed to a certain worldview, it’s easy to ignore inconsistencies, blinded by the fear of other side destroying it all. This, unfortunately, is what left resorts to as well, while being objectively more true (as in scientifically backed), because in the crazy world of politics emotions go first and reason goes second.
At this point, I just feel bad for them. Our education system failed them. These “deranged” people you are talking about are our friends, coworkers, and family who have been misled by a system that was built based on slavery. Keep your masses uneducated, and you can do what you want with them.
Some of them woke up before the election (a friend of mine from Arkansas), some were killed by Covid (my coworker from Texas), and some will learn what the unintended consequences are of voting against their best interest (my aunt that used to work for the federal government in Ohio).
But deranged, they are not. However, I do think Hillary was right. Some of them are deplorable, but I don’t know any deplorables.
Education is not a good defense when you weren’t given any different education than the rest. And it seems like an ideology that they choose even among those more educated and wealthier. This whole only poor uneducated fall for lies is misleading and passes off personal responsibility.
They are the ones who chose despite others not doing so. And even the worst people are capable of moments of kindness, but it doesn’t change who they are at their core and what they choose to believe when they don’t have to selectively filter themselves.
And feel bad for them all you want. It doesn’t change that people around the world are suffering because of their decisions that empowered the people in charge, since they believed they would be the exception.
I work blue collar. I know some.
What’s your assessment? Lack of good education? Or something worse?
I’ve never travel outside of Mexico before, but let’s say, I do want to travel to a country that do not ask you for a visa, BUT, to get to that country my plane do need to make a stopover in the US. Do I do need visa just for that stopover in the US?
Not if you transfer directly to another plane, you only need a Visa if you go through passport control.
