Like, it can’t be a real person, right? Has anyone tried following the links? I’m curious how they’re scamming people. It just seems like anyone getting the same message 5 times won’t fall for being catfished, so I don’t understand what their strategy is.
The strategy is to get you onto a different platform to make instant messaging easier. They are just “advertising” on Lemmy.
Once you’re on a chat platform, they will likely attempt the Pig Butchering scam: make the target fall in love, then persuade them to send money for things like “travel expenses” or “family medical bills”. Also involves buying crypto.
This makes the most sense, but I still find it odd that they would send victims to the same discord server, or friendica.
Is it always the same discord server? I got the message the other day but ignored it.
Easier and/or less moderated. They would be much more difficult for a moderator to track down if you’re talking with them on another platform.
There is an effort to reterm away from the dehumanizing and victim blaming “Pig Butchering” to “Romance Baiting”.
I’ve updated the post to reflect this.
The point is I can’t even get a known scammer to talk to me :(
The same reason a lot scam emails are riddled with typos, follow recognisable formats (eg nigerian prince) and can be easily determined as scams. If you can spot it, you aren’t the mark. It’s a form of selection bias. If you recognise Nicole you probably aren’t new to Lemmy or the Fediverse and are a bad mark. I’d guess, I never followed the links, don’t generally follow links dm’d from random, days old accounts in general. Maybe Nicole truly is just thirsty for Lemmy friends and keeps getting banned lmao.
If you can spot it, you aren’t the mark.
This doesn’t make any sense to me.
Why would you deliberately make your bait less appealing to filter out the fish that might wriggle off the hook before you land them?
The typo’s are in order to evade bayesian spam filters which get suspicious about certain words.
The common formats are used because those are the ones that work.
Because you’re selecting with people who lack experience with scam/critical thinking to figure out they’re scams.
I understood you the first time. My point is, it’s nonsensical.
If you’re sending emails to potential victims you want as many responses as you can get.
It’s an absurdity to suggest that typing errors would intelligently select for people more likely to be scammed.
I’m not arguing about this. Especially not with a baby account. This is an opinion informed by expert opinion on the matter, and I work in tech. If you think it’s “nonsensical” that’s on you.
However, the reason why phishing emails have so many typos is simple—they’re intentional and are included by design. The scammer’s goal is to send phishing emails to a very gullible, innocent victim. If they have typos, they’re essentially weeding out recipients too smart to fall for the scam.
Oh boy. Sure ok you must know everything about security and spam and scammers because you “work in tech”. Honestly, telling people that doesn’t make you sound any more credible.
Did you honestly just google “scammer typos” so you could provide me with an expert source?
You’re making a very simple assertion - that typos weed out potential victims who are gullible enough to fall for a nigerian prince scam with no typos, but not gullible enough to follow through to actually paying the scammer.
It’s a preposterous claim with absolutely no evidence supporting it. Any idiot can see it doesn’t withstand a moment’s thought.
On the other hand, it’s demonstrably true that typos can help to evade bayesian filters.
The actual situation, which both you and mr security blog guy have gravely misunderstood, is that including typos in order to evade filters improves response rates because it improves deliverability and does not discourage a significant number of victims.
Er go, the type of people who become victims are not likely to be discouraged by typos.
That’s not the same as including typos in order to discourage people who are not good victims.
Honestly people that do recognize it for what it is should respond. Keep them talking to waste their time so they can’t hurt someone else.
Their time is worthless, they use slave labor.
But then you’re also wasting your own time.
If we all wasted 5 minutes we could shut down the system.
People really underestimate the power of collective action. It’s just meat based ddos.
It’s just meat based ddos.
What a fascinating sentence.
I mean if everyone “collective action” ignored them together, no one would have to waste even 5 minutes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And theoretically, if there would be half as much scammers as decent people, everyone would have to waste all their time with your strategy, but with my strategy no one would waste time.
But yes I understand it of course, protecting the weak is not a bad thing.
you mean, everyone who already knows it’s a scam or can recognize that it probably is. which is not everyone. otherwise the whole thing wouldn’t exist.
What’s the point of any scam? To make money.
I’ve received 3 Nicole messages since I’ve been on here, each one with a different photo. I ran the photos through TinEye and Google Reverse Image Search but I found no exact matches. The photos are blurry somewhat, which implies that they are shots taken from a video, which is a method catfishers have used to evade detection. It’s also possible that the original photos have long been deleted (as far as I’m aware, this would contribute to evading detection) and the catfish is using this to their advantage.
I’ve also read that someone looked into one of the Nicole accounts, and on that account there was a photo of something shiny, and there was clearly a reflection of an old white man reflecting off the object. Once that was pointed out, the owner of the account deleted their account. So whatever the intentions are, I’m sure it’s nothing good.
I’m guessing it’s a pig butchering scam of some kind. The messages advertise other platforms, along with a Discord server that is named “hell”. The aim is to lull a person into a false sense of security via catfishing and pretending to be the victim’s friend or lover, and then pull a scam on them.
Someone looked into one of the Nicole accounts, and on that account there was a photo of something shiny, I believe it was a buttplug, and there was clearly a reflection of an old white man reflecting off the object.
I want to know more about this!
Well, see, a buttplug is basically a plug, but for your butt. Would you like to know more?
Your guess is as good as mine. Some people are just crazy.
I wish I knew. I followed the link to the Matrix community, and it was just confused people and trolling NAZI’s. No Nicole, no attempt at catfishing.
Yeah this is what I’m confused about, why would you send your potential catfish victims to the same place where they can talk to each other and then ignore them?
The point is to introduce me to my future wife so stop messaging her!!
