Summary
Elon Musk suggested cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid in a Fox News interview, citing debunked claims about fraud and linking benefits to illegal immigration.
He falsely claimed millions of deceased individuals remain in the Social Security system, a statement previously refuted by officials.
While Trump has promised not to cut entitlement programs, Musk’s remarks indicate they are under threat, potentially impacting millions of Americans.
His rhetoric echoes far-right conspiracy theories, raising concerns about his influence on policy discussions regarding social safety nets.
You know, Elon Musk is a person with a neck.
You, and all your ancestors, offspring, and reincarnations, have just been permabanned from Reddit.
Hooray!
And he thinks empathy is a flaw in humans, so…
A neck that’s awfully long. Maybe we could help him out and shorten it a bit.
I know some folks that can fashion a guillotine!
Many people are saying…
Touch that shit, I fucken dare you.
If it gets out of hand Elmo will be left holding the bag and likely forced out. The Trump admin will continue on like nothing happened, they won’t lose an ounce of support, and DOGE will just be a short footnote on our decline to fascism.
I 100% expect him to throw Elmo under the bus like he has with every other person that’s been on his side. He won’t really even need to try, his supporters will do it for him because they can’t handle a reality where they were wrong about the Orange One
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Tsar,_bad_Boyars
A process that worked for Russia!
I don’t.
Elon helped rig it. Elon is fucked if either of them reneg on it but it’s less likely.
I like your optimism
That’s not optimism, it’s the very real conclusion that Elon is the (miraculously unwitting) fall guy for all the bad shit they need done early on to facilitate everything else. They’ll get to do the whole “we got rid of the bad eggs, we’ve tuned over a new leaf” thing that conservative politicians love to do when they kick out a fall guy.
This time next year he’s going to be shouting on some fuckhead podcast about how he was used. I practically guarantee it.
Well that or Elon successfully manages to do what he thinks will happen and manages to take full control
Counterpoint: There’s a significant chance that Musk has dirt on Trump. He literally has access to Trump’s old DM’s from Twitter. There’s a good chance that when he was forced to buy Twitter he needed to find something he could leverage out of the forced buy. Trump’s DMs are easy pickings at that point, they were never encrypted. That’s why they’re called “Direct Messages” and not “Private Messages.”
Further, there’s rampant speculation that Musk helped him steal the election, but that’s a lot more loose and may not be a real thing. Musk having access to Trump’s past DMs on Twitter is basically a fact.
Yeah but even if he had DM that said he raped and ate women and children none of his supporters would care
Having dirt on him does nothing when his supporters eat dirt.
In the grand scheme of things Leon is just one of many douchebags. One that has been publicly grating to deal with for the rest of the gang. They’ve probably been planning an ouster against him for a minute, it’s just a matter of squeezing what use they can out of him in the meantime.
They’ll just cut it for anybody under 60 or whatever, and their base will cheer them on.
They’ll just cut it for anybody under 60 or whatever, and their base will cheer them on.
Not if they have been paying into it. At least not unless they get a refund for what they paid into it.
Screw just being paid back. I want decades of interest on that loan I gave the government. If I don’t get at least 10% on my investment I’ll fucking riot.
No you won’t.
🤣 you don’t know anything about me. If I have no retirement to look forward to I have nothing to lose. I know I’m not alone in that sentiment too.
Just because you’re a pussy doesn’t mean everyone else is.
Idk I might 🤷♂️
No you won’t.
They call it the third rail of politics for a reason.
Exactly, if they can’t hold up their end, it’s time for some old fashioned leg breaking.
Yessss, anger the old people. Do it. They are the most reliable voting group.
What exactly are you going to do? Cry?
Dude, we are talking about 12.4% of folks taxable earnings since the day they all joined the workforce. You think tears are the only things gonna happen if that got stolen?
Yeah. I doubt the american people will do anything substantial
At the same time we’re also talking about a demographic that’s deeply steeped in fox news disinformation so who the fuck knows what they’d think the cause or actuality of the suspension of benefits would be.
I’m not certain which demo you’re referring. All Americans with jobs pay into SS, and certainly not even half of them give a fuck all about some shitty cable infotainment network.
Half of American nonretirees already expect to get nothing from Social Security when they retire.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/546890/americans-upbeat-future-social-security-benefits.aspx
I mean, there’d be a lot of upset people, but…
Also (sorry to double comment you) wanted to mention, I don’t think any American has yet had to deal with actually not having SS benefits (I mean generally, in that they still exist, I am not talking about exceptional cases and those where the benefits were taken away legally, if that exists).
From the Gallup article you posted:
Social Security’s future has been a topic of debate for decades. The system is expected to be able to continue to pay full benefits to recipients through 2033 if no changes are made to the system. In 2034, the system is projected to be able to pay 80% of benefits to recipients.
So it could happen in the next decade, but we expect it based on how it’s structured.
If it gets taken away from Americans by some ruling class, I’m pretty sure the reactions will be swift and meaningful. And I’m not even referring to any kind of violence, just normal old social and political and legal actions.
It ain’t what the left is going to do that is reason for concern.
https://www.ssa.gov/deposit/T2StateSum_a.htm
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/right-wing-extremist-terrorism-united-states
Yes, a lot.
No way, a horrible person admits they probably might do something horrible after establishing a strong track record of doing horrible things?! I am SHOCKED. Who could have seen this horrible administration known for doing horrible things doing something horrible like this?
But but they said they would never do this. Stupid fools.
The people threatening the cuts, or the people who believed them when they said they wouldn’t do that?
Yes.
Seriously…. Why the fuck is this clown allowed to cut ANYTHING?
The moment he cuts a single service someone depends on, he should be sued into submission. How is this happening?
Because the President and the Republican majority in the House and Senate are onboard with it, and that’s the authority driving it (mostly the President, but the reason that Congress isn’t objecting to or trying to block stuff is because they’re okay with it). Musk may be the face of the cuts — he doesn’t have to worry about re-election, unlike politicians — he has no authority of his own. His organization is just saying “this is what we should cut”, and the cuts happen under the President’s authority. Musk isn’t independently going out and cutting things.
Reminder: you paid taxes in order to receive social security when you need it. If they negate on that deal, ask for your taxes back.
Money back plus interest. Decades and decades of interest.
Don’t ask, take!
So storm the federal reserve like area 51?
Social Security’s “trust fund” is an empty pit of debt obligations. Benefits to current recipients are paid with incoming payroll taxes. Any difference is made up with additional taxes or monetary inflation, by way of Treasury bonds. They “reinvest it in the economy” if there’s ever a surplus, e.g., through military contractors. It finances the national debt.
Putting aside the quirks of that setup, the basic function is that the taxes you pay in now are not an investment in your own future, you’re basically just paying for the retirement of older people now. The expectation is that someone down the road will then pay taxes to finance your retirement. Hence, how SS was able to start paying benefits almost immediately (3 years) after payroll taxes started being collected.
Musk’s head is gonna be on the chopping block if he manages to make 20+ million Americans instantly homeless.
I sincerely hope these cuts do not happen, but if they do, I hope we see a massive “grey wave” of large scale protests from older folks who rely on these programs. They worked and paid into Social Security their whole lives and deserve that money.
The thing is, the elders have all bought in to this idea that there’s no money for social security and medicare not because it’s been whittled away and underfunded and means tested to death for forty years, but rather there’s just massive, massive fraud, and everybody’s stealing from social security before it gets to them. So, they’re probably all cheering this push to cut entitlements because they think that all these fraudsters will be kicked off, and surely they won’t be kicked off, surely their social security benefits will actually be a good amount once all those mooches are kicked off. When it does happen to them, and it will, they won’t realize that it was by design, they’ll all be stunned that Trump and Musk made this “mistake” and swept them up in the cuts.
And if we have elections again, they’ll thumb a ride from outside of their tent by the highway to catch a ride to the polling booths where they will vote for Trump’s third term? I’m thinking some of them will have to figure it out by then.
I already told my Trump-voting mom that if there’s anyone that deserves to lose it, it’s her. She doesn’t care. Trumpers are irrevocably anti-human even if they get hurt in the process. Fuck the future, fuck everyone but them, and fuck them too as long as everyone else is getting fucked harder.
If he wants a wave of suicide bombers on mobility scooters, he’s on the right track.
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“Biden should have warned us harder! Harris tricked us! Fuckin leftists(lol) used reverse psychology! Imma MAGA even harder just to get revenge!”
Elon Musk suggested cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid in a Fox News interview
February 11, 4 weeks ago:
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-collapse-james-carville-2035164
Trump Administration Will ‘Collapse’ in 30 Days, Says James Carville
Carville advised Democrats to “play opossum” for now.
“This whole thing is collapsing. It doesn’t need Elizabeth Warren in somebody screaming to pacify some progressive advocacy groups in Washington,” the former top adviser to President Bill Clinton said. “Hold your fire. It’s going to be easy pickings here in six weeks, just lay back.”
I would have said that Carville was wrong, but if they do start taking big whacks at entitlement programs, this might actually manage it.
This is going to disproportionately affect MAGA voters.
My mom when the CoL bump to her SSDI survivors benefit bumped her over the poverty line and out of Medicaid eligibility:
“Because I got an extra $50 a month, I now have to pay $100 a month for insurance, plus copays! This is ridiculous!”
My mom when I pointed out that those thresholds haven’t been touched in decades because that would be helping people and helping people is bad:
“Well, I guess I can’t really complain, I’ve been treated well.”
Do not underestimate the vast amounts of copium reserves harbored by the brainwashed.
It’s best to just never, ever give magats the benefit of the doubt and just assume they’re trash people who deserve to be treated like the trash that they are
Yep.
Where do I get a refund on my social security payments I’ve put in my entire adult life?
(not so) fun fact: The average black male American never sees a penny from social security because the program is biased toward those who live long enough to reap the benefits of the program. So, despite paying in an entire working life, dying too young rewards you with a big fat nothing.
The average life expectancy of a black male in the US is 72 years. Are you saying they’re just choosing not to pull SS? Something doesn’t seem right with your stat.
What the fuck have you been smoking? Do you seriously believe that the average black male American will die before retirement age?
Also fun fact: I’ve been pulling made up statistics (also without any corroborating numbers) out of my butt since the last ice age!
While Trump has promised not to cut entitlement programs
And we all know how much Trump’s word is worth.
We also all know how much in charge of the White House he is too.
Finally admits what we knew all along. I’m shocked…absolutely shocked…wow…if I could get anymore shocked I’d be like 5 steps down from a single eyebrow lift.
