• Asafum@feddit.nl
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    24 days ago

    “Democrats appear ready to back down”

    In other news, today happens to be a day that ends with the letter “Y.”

    Tune in again for more things that happen every single day to no surprise!

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    The lawmaker said Democrats are worried they would get the blame for a shutdown if they voted to defeat the House bill. The House is out of session for the rest of the week, upping the pressure on Senate Democrats.

    Voters haven’t punished Republicans for their numerous shut downs. But that said, voters are always more likely to blame Democrats for anything at all.

    In the article there are definitely some interesting points. Like how Elon would probably use the shut down to fire even more people. Or Trump would use it to take even more power from Congress.

    I still think the Democrats need to stand firm and refuse to vote for it, make Republicans pass it via reconciliation. Shut it down if necessary. But there’s definitely a lot of possibly terrible outcomes to a shut down to consider.

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      The Republicans literally control the entire government. Everything that is happening is their fault and if the Democrats feel like that won’t be the case they suck at their fucking job.

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        They don’t control the entire government in this context. That’s why they need Democrat votes.

        As for fault: the spending bill is in itself reasonable. Refusing to vote for it may be the optional strategy (I don’t know) but it doesn’t look great.

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    I’ve had enough of this “you can’t blame democrats for what Republicans are doing.” They’ve set up and maintained a system where they’re the only people who can push back on the fascists, and now that the time has come they’re refusing to stand up, and keeping anyone else from standing up.

    They’re not just incompetent, they’re complicit.

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      Don’t worry both sides are not the same though so you can take that to the bank, not the same bank that the democrats are cashing their corporate checks in though because that would be unseemly.

      I am only half kidding, maybe a quarter kidding.

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    I wonder if elon could be blocked from terminating another few thousand jobs if the government is shut down.
    That might be a good reason to block the bill. In addition to all of the bullshit that’s in it that should be blocked anyways.

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    Shutdowns really suck if you’re employed by the federal government. Nothing makes you feel more powerless than either being told you’re not allowed to do your job because your employer can’t figure out its shit or you’re told you have to work, but you aren’t guaranteed your next scheduled paycheck until the shutdown ends, and in 2018-19, it was really unclear when it would end. And if you’re furloughed and get back-pay for not working, you’re viewed poorly by the public for getting paid not to work, even though it wasn’t your fault. I could definitely see Democrats being blamed for all the bad things resulting from a shutdown, even though it’s provisions in the GOP bill that are ultimately causing it to happen. Holding federal employees’ paychecks and government services to the public hostage is absolutely the shittiest way to conduct political business.

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      I’m a federal employee. Being furloughed for awhile scares me less than what DOGE is doing. Every coworker I’ve discussed it with (and it’s frequently discussed at my office) feels the same way.

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        DOGE is not a government agency and would presumably continue working regardless of shutdown. They could continue to operate under Musks funding.

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        I’m all for whatever maximizes the pain for DOGE. What would that be? A 40-day shutdown showdown that results in a better spending bill?