Trump Tries to Undo Biden Pardons Via Social Media Proclamation
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Donald Trump claimed former President Joe Biden’s alleged use of autopen to sign pardons for members of the Jan. 6 committee nullified their validity.

Summary

Donald Trump declared on Truth Social that he was voiding Joe Biden’s pardons for Jan. 6 committee members, calling them “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT.”

He claimed Biden’s use of an autopen made the pardons invalid, citing unproven claims from The Heritage Foundation. Legal experts note that a president cannot revoke a predecessor’s pardons.

Biden issued them to shield officials from politically motivated investigations.

Trump, who has repeatedly threatened prosecutions, accused the committee members of wrongdoing and suggested they be investigated.

  • bassomitron@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    19 days ago

    Court order not enforced and no reaction from the public.

    Er… There have been numerous protests and outrage at GOP townhalls and other places

      • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        19 days ago

        I’m going to quote a previous comment of mine from ~ a month or so ago.

        The US has a larger population, but its also massively larger. There were thousands in LA - tens of? No idea. But into the thousands across multiple protests.

        That said, it usually takes a bit for momentum. The Great American Boycott (aka a day without an immigrant) had about a million people 20 years ago, but had large scale planning and coordination in other countries as well. The Floyd protests were in the tens of millions of participants, but that was also over a few years of protesting during the pandemic.

        Then add in the short timeframe provided on this one (less than 2 weeks if you knew about it early, mostly the day or two before for many more) and its a solid turnout.

        This is more like everyone getting to Berlin and protesting, but without good public transportation infrastructure and super short notice. So let’s take that Oklahoma example from earlier - hundreds were there. The population of OK is about 4 million people for the whole state. In terms of population, its about the middle most populous of all states. So this is like the population of Berlin, spread across a state about half the size of Germany.

        • homoludens@feddit.org
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          19 days ago

          I know the US is different than Europe, that’s why I mentioned my POV.

          And I still don’t really understand it, because the numbers are really very different. Oklahoma City (without the metropolitan area) is about as big as my as my hometown Bremen. We just had protests because our chancellor-to-be collaborated with the fascist party - we were about 1500 people, with about 24 hours notice. Big protests are up to 25000-50000 people. And as you said, other protests in the US were way bigger.

          So I don’t think “time for preparation” is an important factor, especially as it is not really a surprise that Trump became president and is doing shitty things. Unless protests in the US are more complicated for some reason I don’t see yet?

          From an outside perspective, I would guess it’s more about work culture - people being burnt out, no protections from getting fired. This might lead to less of a protest culture culture overall maybe. Which is also weird, because the US also has seen some very well known and successful protest movements.

          Bonus: current Hollwood movies always seem to make it a point that the protagonist is very much trying to not get involved. I wonder what that says about the (current) culture in the US.

          • medgremlin@midwest.social
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            18 days ago

            Time to prepare is very important because we have crap labor laws. It can be very hard for people to get time off work and missing a day can be very painful. For folks living paycheck to paycheck, missing a day of pay means missing a rent payment or not being able to afford food. In a lot of jobs, time off is very limited, even for illness, and is highly likely to be unpaid.

            The robber barons have done an extremely good job at nailing our bootstraps in the pits of Tartarus through debt and indenture.

    • DicJacobus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      18 days ago

      The public is mostly powerless as long as the regime is willing to point and use firearms. thats their go-to card.

      you can bet that the regime is also planning on giving out military equipment for fighting against crowds too, tear gas, firehoses, and microwave / sonic weapons like what was seen in Serbia recentley.

      • bassomitron@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        18 days ago

        you can bet that the regime is also planning on giving out military equipment for fighting against crowds too, tear gas, firehoses, and microwave / sonic weapons

        Hate to break it to you, but our police have been militarized with military gear for decades. During the massive George Floyd protests in 2020, the police used all of those weapons against crowds (except microwave, but they definitely used some type of sonic/sound crowd control weapons).

        • DicJacobus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          17 days ago

          the militarized police thing isnt news to anyone who hasnt been living under a rock.

          whats new though is the rolling out of those microwave / sonic weapons, In the event of mass protests, I would expect at the very least, US Police forces / military uses those against protestors and rioters. (thats assuming they aren’t just shooting to kill)