Democratic capitalism (capitalism + democracy) alongside a strong and efficient social welfare system is what I personally adhere to.

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    17 days ago

    How do you equitably manage and distribute the cost of critical systems like water sanitation for hundreds of millions of people without a hierarchy?

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      17 days ago

      You create a culture where people feel ownership over their own communities and services. This isn’t something given to you by a government or business. It’s something you run and maintain in conjunction with the rest of your community for your own benefit. And you keep the focus locally while building a system that can interact on a larger scale. So I and my community have ownership and responsibility over our water system and it can integrate with the water system owned and maintained by the next community over.

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        17 days ago

        Culture isn’t static. It drifts over time and newer generations of people will cease to value what their parents did. Any system maintained by culture will die rather quickly.

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          17 days ago

          History shows quite the opposite. Systems maintained by culture are the ones that last. Systems maintained by force are the ones that breed opposition.

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            17 days ago

            Culture itself is a system maintained by force, in its particular case it’s social force, peer pressure, pressure from family, etc.

            It breeds opposition within itself, which is why it constantly changes.

            And I think you’re wrong in that cultural longer. A good example of this is the values of the boomers. They valued the nuclear family, working hard to get promoted, the police, the american dream, etc. It’s now the complete opposite, the nuclear family is regarded as a joke, people loathe the idea of staying at a job longer than a few years let alone the decades the boomers would do. The police are hated, and the american dream is dead.

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              I don’t think folks are loathe to the idea their just aren’t jobs that allow for that anymore and if they did they don’t provide an equitable enough deal to make it desireable. If folks got promoted by working hard then folks would value it now but it does not happen. All that wraps into the american dream. Honestly I don’t think the police were valued over firemen or emts.

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        17 days ago

        Also the local community can dump their waste in the river because it benefits their local community and they don’t care about the people downriver!

        The system still needs a structure for interacting with other communities beyond the local one.