“The space researcher was allegedly randomly checked on arrival, during which his professional computer and personal telephone were allegedly searched. Similarly, messages about the Trump administration’s treatment of scientists have been found.”

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    1st Amendment protections on freedom of speech apply to everyone in the USA, regardless of citizenship. Frenchman should sue.

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          Relevant section on Wikipedia:

          The government may not criminally punish immigrants based on speech that would be protected if said by a citizen.[83] On entry across borders, the government may bar non-citizens from the United States based on their speech, even if that speech would have been protected if said by a citizen.[84] Speech rules as to deportation, on the other hand, are unclear.[85] Lower courts are divided on the question, while the leading cases on the subject are from the Red Scare.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

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      Visitors to the US have been asked if they were members of the communist party since forever though?

      IDK if those who replied “yes” would be sent back, but I do remember reading about Chinese communist party members being denied entry to the US.

      I don’t see much difference between this and that as far as the 1st amendment is concerned… aren’t you idealizing the 1st amendment (and/or how seriously the US takes it)?

      PS: let me make clear that I’m not trying to defend the indefensible behaviour of the Trump administration in any way

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      There’s no first or fourth amendment rights within 100 miles of the border of the USA. Probably other missing rights too.

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        That’s not true, because the Constitution applies to the whole place. Americans and non-citizens freely exercise those rights in those areas daily.

        If any agent of the government tells you otherwise, you must educate them and enforce the free exercise of your own rights.

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          If any agent of the government tells you otherwise, you must educate them and enforce the free exercise of your own rights.

          How exactly does one enforce the free exercise of their rights?

          Remember that agents of the government are often armed and generally don’t like being told what to do.

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      i didn’t expect to see a monty-python/star-trek response to current events; but i’ll allow it. lol

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    I heard from a Redditor that his tweets were luring US scientists to EU and his visit was a recruitment drive.

    I imagine US does not want to identify him because although we could verify the above in his tweets, it would be advertising the lure for US scientists to defect.

    And the French guy probably does not want to identify himself because je wants to make the US government look as bad as possible.

    Not random, not as bad as the headline sounds but not worthy of banning anyhow.

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    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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      You must have an outdated version. The current version is “We announce that there must be no criticism of the President, and that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong. Anything else is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”