https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/
United states is ranked 48. And they claim to have th best healthcare in the world.
Obviously that’s not true, they may have one of the best for the very rich. But on average it’s VERY bad.Food standards are also bad, so again it’s only if you are doing well that you can afford healthy food.
The countries surrounding USA on this list have about a third the wealth per capita!!!
That’s because we’re a regressing country
it’s SO weird to be someone who grew up in America and has now spent about 25 years back home. i cannot understate the powerful effect of the mindset of “being an American”.
I’m unfortunately still here and even I haven’t a fucking clue
here’s the thing. one might say something like, “well get one and move!” just like they’d say to a tesla owner, “if you don’t want your car defaced, then just get rid of it!”
i’m not defending tesla. nothing burns brighter than an T. as in “time to leave”.
but you can’t just up and swap countries or cars every four years, right? there’s a word for that, but half the country refuses to hear it… it’s unsustainable.
none of what i just wrote is directed at you personally. i personally have a spare bedroom in Canada that you’re welcome to inhabit (barring obvious vets).
One of the biggest troubles of being a US citizen is the conservatives will happily tell you “If you don’t like it, leave!”
Not being a conservative, I know my associates degree self is not gonna be terribly welcome to vast majority of the countries.
It’s not hard at all. -If one has a PhD in the hard-sciences and at least $500,000.00 in savings prior to turning 30yo
/s
*civilization
Definitely a symptom of the 1% hoarding all the wealth… there’s a version of that “trickle down” theory Republicans seem to love so much. If you can barely afford groceries or housing - how do you expect people to be able to afford basic medical care and other things that keep people from teetering off the edge?
Workers are paid like shit and burnt out - so lots of people do bare minimum at work to get by. I don’t blame them. A society attempting to function like that ends up with holes all over the place that make everything worse and decimate any kind of safety nets for lower and middle class families. Corporations and government put up all their red tape bullshit that seems to be done solely to exhaust people and make them want to give up.
And one of the most stupid things of them all - you now have dumb fuck Republicans openly shouting from the hilltops that vaccines are evil and to not trust doctors…
At first glance I read: “afforable deaths”…
Oh no we don’t have those in America. Dying is expensive, but don’t worry the government won’t get a penny of that as an estate tax
I’m curious, how much is a typical doctor’s visit in the U.S. without insurance of any kind? Just a straight out of pocket sort of expense. $50, $100, $250, $500, $1000? I assume that it scales based on more complicated procedures or longer visits, but what about the basics, like going in for what you think is a bad cold or the flue, maybe a rash or something along those lines?
I recently had a routine visit with my doctor. About ten minutes. The office sent me a bill. $179.00 Luckily for me it was sent to me in error and my ‘cadillac’ health insurance covered everything.
Well, that’s something at least. How much does a “Cadillac” health plan’s coverage cost you though?
I got it through my job/union. I pay about $20.00 for a doctor’s visit out of pocket. Pretty much everything else is covered.
I wish everyone had coverage like mine.
That’s cheap AF compared to what I’ve been hearing so far. All day long, Union strong.
What kind of Doctor? What kind of Visit?
Let’s say the family type, and a checkup for any of the more mundane things above.
Well, that’s the problem, due to changes passed with the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare), annual routine screenings are free including women wellness. A lot of people do not know this.
The problem is when they find something wrong. Going to a specialist can easily push from hundreds to thousands.
Interesting, it’s no wonder that so many Americans have a difficult time with medical bills. I was also under the impression that the Affordable Care Act had been dismantled, it’s a bit tough to catch all of the headlines with so much going on all the time.
Affordable Care Act is mostly still there, but
- the tax penalty for choosing no coverage was struck down in court, so more people are making this choice
- several states refused federal money to cover lower income
- republicans re-opened the door to junk policies that don’t provide meaningful coverage
Also the current administration is trying to
- replace support for state Medicaid programs with block grants that can be used to squeeze the state’s, who will reduce coverage
- repeal important features of ACA, like no refusal of treatment for pre-existing conditions, 100% coverage of routine care including immunizations
It’s still counter-intuitive to me, the thought that any country/state would try to save money by rolling back coverage for immunizations. The total loss to GDP from chronic and acute health problems is nothing to shake a stick at, denying coverage for immunization is like a country shooting itself in the foot (assuming that they can cover the cost to begin with).
Have you met Republicans? They like shooting themselves in the foot. They love guns.
And it is mostly the red states doing these counterintuitive measures. Unintended consequences going to catch up real fast.
Yeah, I don’t understand it either. Immunization has always been such a huge benefit, such a huge return on investment, such a huge positive, that I just don’t understand how even the most self-serving, manipulative liar with no morals would try to cut it
If you have to go to the Emergency Department, $1000 is you won the lottery.
Holy shit, yeah, that’s not good. With so many just barely squeaking by month to month, even that could be ruinous…
Pretty much the fastest way to be penniless in the US medical bills. Hence why we have such shit outcomes, we tend to wait until the last damn second for anything medical.
And frankly, the $1000 winning the lottery is with insurance as well.
Christ, not a good state of affairs. I’d say that the U.S. healthcare system should have been overhauled decades ago, but the resistance to improving it seems almost insurmountable when the way that money affects the setup is taken into account. It might not change for the better for a long time yet.
Oh it might change if the the GOP gets their way. They want to strip out out the ACA or “Obamacare.”
Then we get to go back to where insurance dropped parents insurance on kids at 18 instead of until 26, back to limits on lifetime and annual coverage, and where you could be denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions.
This was a state of affairs within my lifetime. You think it’s bleak now, it can in fact get much much worse.
I don’t envy Americans this scenario. Hopefully the system can be restored to an acceptable, if not ideal, state of affairs once the Trump administration ends.
I hope so too. However between Trumps Executive Order on voting and the way the people of my state and surrounding states are acting on this (they’re loving it) I’m not holding my breath.
It’ll probably be a good idea to steer clear of the US for a while (decades). I’d say pray for those of us that are trapped and want the hell out, but with the GOP we’ve got plenty of “thoughts and prayers” already.
Are they falling in China, Russia, Susan, Israel? only shit holes are our peers.
China yes, susan no. But susan is an outlier.
Sounds sus.
