First term a lot of people considered leaving but frankly it didn’t feel like this.
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A lot of innocent people are being/will be displaced unfortunately. [He] wants to undo everything that his predecessor has achieved. It is never too late to consider leaving.
i’ve made a list of the things that i care most about where i live and are different from the rest of the country and have decided that i need to have my emigrations plans in motion when the first of them is made illegal.
As someone in the process of leaving, get it in motion NOW. Emigrating takes time. This goes for anyone looking who is at the current situation and weighing their options:
Visas and immigration laws aside, there’s a lot that goes into leaving the country. Get all your finances in order, make a plan for how to move your stuff, and think about how long it would take you to trim down literally everything you own to just the essentials. If you have family or pets, this goes for them as well. Start going through your stuff and seeing that you can donate. Get as much stuff packed as you can. Make a bugout bag, fill it with at least 1 week’s worth of clothes and all your essentials (I keep ~3 months of meds in mine). Get a small firesafe and put all your legal paperwork in it. Stockpile your prescriptions if you can. Make sure your car is ready to drive if you’re driving, otherwise have a plan to get rid of it. Withdraw cash in small bills.
You want to be as prepared as possible
i’m had to move 15 times over the last 20 years and it’s taught me to live with only the bare essentials. i also have legal entitlement to my target country so i’m not sweating the paperwork either.
the only things i’m worried about are the regime change the united states is going to impose on my target country and my pets since they’re the most important things in my life.
The time to leave if you’re able to was in his first term.
We got out, no regrets, and we’re not going back.
Any surprises you wish you knew about beforehand that you’d care to share? Any bullshit around financial stuff, filing taxes while abroad, etc?
Banks in the US really don’t want to give you your money. Keep a US phone # (I think Google phone has one which doesn’t kill you in charges) so you can contact them (when and if you transfer money).
You should take a trip first to set up some groundwork, find a trusted lawyer (we have two, one is our accountant, who’s also a lawyer, and another who is our immigration lawyer). They will go over all your paperwork for housing rentals, they should know people who can get your health insurance set up -you probably will need private health care +repatriation insurance until you are a permanent resident. Cost is around €50/per person per month, paid monthly (for us).
Downsize as much as possible, do not put ‘artwork’ on you customs for for import as they will hold up the works. )paperwork, personal clothing, household goods, etc. vague and mundane.
Your first year RENT a place in a town you choose, you will know in that year if that’s where you want to be or not. Our experience was we got a place for summer (3months) then checked out all the towns along the coast and kept coming back to where we settled, so we found a place for a year there, then COVID… then found the place we are in the process of buying.
Walkable city, good infrastructure to travel by bus/train, 2 airports 1hr away in opposite directions. We don’t drive anymore & bike everywhere, and live 500M from the Mediterranean Sea.
So yeah… being by the water is absolutely worth any issues we encountered.
Ballpark of how much your process cost? I’m seeing two lawyers and now I’m wondering how much convenience I can afford. Nothing wrong with convenience either, I’m just poor.
I would say about 20k for the whole move…that’s just a ballpark, and that includes 1 year fam of 4 living without income (rent, etc) because for the first year you cannot make an income on the local economy. I actually needed this year because I was so burned out.
If you can work at home there are nomad visas for the taking… Ireland has a very good program but housing is expensive (there are some work/housing available).
This also wasn’t our first foray out of the US, I left when I was 18, came back for school, etc and then out again with a good offer where I met my partner. Moved back and when we tried to leave again the recession hit and had to hunker down until the timing was right.
Once you are out of the US your money goes further…IMO it has 'more value’s than in the US.
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Half of my friend’s family is gone and ICE is inching toward gestapo territory. It’s pretty bad
I’m not sure ‘inching’ is the right word here. ‘Speedrunning’ might be more suitable
Were they legal? No judgement from me either way, but if they were make sure you include it when you tell people. I have some folks I am scared for and everybody’s argument to me has been “They’re only taking felons” or “they’re only taking illegals”
I don’t think so. So if you see them take somebody who has papers tell everybody.
The issue isn’t whether or not their documented or felons, it’s that they didn’t have a trial so they didn’t have a chance to prove either way
