“Even if this motion is successful, it doesn’t mean that Luigi Mangione walks out of prison,” said Ron Kuby, a criminal defense attorney whose practice focuses on civil rights. “All it means is that the items that were seized from him, or seized that belong to him, can’t be used as evidence against him.”
Kuby thinks that Mangione’s team has made enough claims in their papers to merit a hearing on the issues, in which the police officer involved would have to testify, confirming or denying the facts. “It does appear that they stopped and frisked Mangione without a legal basis to do it. If that’s true, everything that follows from there is likely to be found to be unconstitutional,” he said.
Guy is going to jail, the grave, or both. Guilty or not the state is not letting a little thing like police evidence tampering or innocence get in the way of him paying for the consequences being brought home to that CEO. Truth was publicly spoken to power, and someone has to pay for that in the states eyes.
Without the obviously planted evidence, all they have is a video that doesn’t show his face. If i was on the jury, that’s enough reasonable doubt for me.
And the eyebrows arent even close to similar
If the Brow doesn’t fit, we shall acquit.
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America needs more Luigis.
Definitely more symbols like him. If he’s found innocent, then we must ask if Luigi’s identity and movement extend to the true killer. If he’s found guilty, then we have a more complex conversation.
Either way, we need more.
I’m still convinced this poor kid is a patsy because NYPD was facing down a riot, or worse (for them), for the blatant classism in their investigation efforts.
Unfortunately much of the public has given Luigi credit/deemed him “guilty” out of a need for ideological symbolism and an outlet to express frustration.
Luigi is an innocent patsy. The cops planted the evidence on the first convenient person they found.
remember that TIP, they baited the people to ID him.
They baited people to find anyone that might look like the shooter.
That’s kind of how locating a suspect works… How else do you locate someone from a description when they have fled and are hiding in the general population?
I feel like they had more than enough reasonable suspicion, and that the evidence they found on his person are also very much relevant to the case so it should be presented to the Jury to help them make their decision.
Why do you think they had reasonable suspicion?
Match the physical profile, matched the outfit, matched the face, probably smelled like he hadn’t showered in 2 days, just got off a bus from New York carrying a backpack full of cash.
They knew he got off a bus from New York and that his backpack was full of cash? By the fact that he was sitting in a mcdonalds?
And he didn’t match the outfit, just similar. You think the cops from around the us were justified in searching anyone white in a hoodie because someone in New York did something?
Whoever called the tip in probably knew he was between buses, yes. The exact contents of his backpack would be unknown so long as he didn’t retrieve any cash from it during his stop.
Probably? Based on what? McDonalds around you often note which bus you get off of, do they?
It was a mall adjacent a major bus route, Luigi was on foot after getting off the bus alongside a bunch of other people doing the same.
Are you guessing at this, or are you claiming that is what was actually reported?
My understanding is that it was an employee at the restaurant that reported him. ‘Mall adjacent to a bus stop’ seems a little less ‘first hand account that he was on a bus from New York’ and more circumstancial like ‘he came in at the same time as some others, had a different color hoodie and different color backpack than the description, but very broadly matched “white guy with hoodie”’.
Basically exactly what should get an improper arrest thrown out if you detain someone without cause, fail to Mirandize, search them and then find something incriminating.
