• Noxy@pawb.social
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    11 days ago

    What about athletes with genetics that happen to give them athletic advantages that have nothing at all to do with sex?

    Or athletes from wealthy backgrounds who had greater opportunity to train and condition than poorer athletes?

    This is all so silly to me.

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    11 days ago

    OK, so hold up. This isn’t testing if a woman is trans. This test also disqualifies cis women who have genetic conditions that give them masculine physical traits. This article gives examples of women’s gold medalists who are cis but would now be disqualified.

    We might have to replace the men’s and women’s categories with “open” and “two X chromosomes”. Cis and trans people of all genders might be surprised to find whether or not they qualify for the “two X chromosomes” category. Particularly effeminate cis men might qualify for “two X chromosomes”. This actually seems like a fair way to level the playing field, accomplishing what the current men’s and women’s divisions try to do.

    I am a little worried about the idea of disqualifying athletes for having beneficial genes. This could have implications beyond women’s sports, like being banned from basketball for being too tall.

    • FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee
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      11 days ago

      Imagine putting in the work to qualify for the Olympics only to find out you’re not a “real” woman by some arbitrary definitions. Michael Phelps has physical characteristics that gave him an edge in his particular sport, but people only tried to talk about his weed use as a disqualifying factor

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        9 days ago

        That man has too many amino strings in his DNA that resembles fish DNA.

        DSQ

      • hitstun@fedia.io
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        11 days ago

        That’s definitely going to ruin people’s athletic careers, but at least this arbitrary definition has some merit in athletics. It’s important to say that getting disqualified this way doesn’t make someone a less “real” woman. Women can get disqualified from events this way. That’s why I’d rename them to the “open” and “two X chromosomes” contests.

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        11 days ago

        Except when they do, then the ISSF & IOC eventually ban them from participating in Olympic skeet.

        Just ask Zhang Shan!

  • toomanypancakes@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    But remember, men can have huge genetic advantages and they’re just athletes. Michael Phelps doesn’t have an unfair advantage of anything.

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    11 days ago

    Why can’t we just have everyone compete all together and just have their gender be next to their name?

    • Something Burger 🍔@jlai.lu
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      11 days ago

      Because women would never see a podium or even be qualified ever again. That’s why they are separated in the first place.

      For example the 100m dash: the world record for women (10.49s) would be 7652nd in the men’s ranking.