French President Emmanuel Macron responded to the Russian army's overnight shelling of Ukraine by noting that Russia "has once again shown that it does not truly share the desire for peace" and expressed "full support" for the Ukrainian people.
Well, in this thread, as it’s been already pointed out, you’ve engaged in whataboutism to change the subject from russia to France. It’s only a small step above a kid’s “NO YOU!” level of argumentation.
Is France’s imperialistic history deplorable? Yes. But by the end of the year they will have pulled out from all but 2 countries with which they had defense agreements, as opposed to russia which is increasing presence in the same countries, in addition to the countries in which it already had a presence. So it’s actually russia that has potentially more troops in Africa, but I can’t find actual numbers to confirm since it’s in russia’s best interest not to declare those.
So yeah, how can you compare a country that leaves when it’s uninvited to russia which is actively shelling a sovereign nation on top of doing the same shit in Africa as all the other imperialists?
i didnt change subjects, i pointed out the hypocrisy. i have been firm on this goalpost the entire thread.
france is STILL imposing the CFAF on what, maybe a dozen african countries right now? this is blatant 19-century style colonialism still. how do you think the french power their squeaky-clean, super-progressive nuclear reactors when their last mine was closed in the early 2000s? where did they get the raw materials to be an industrial superpower?
this goes SO much deeper than just the preparations for ww3. if you think russians are worse, i should go back a few comments in this thread and urge you to ask french-speaking africans about it yet again. ask them why some revolted recently and why western media is saying NOTHING about it.
i’m actually enjoying the conversation but ill have to leave, so have a nice day.
please point me to where i defended russia in this thread?
you guys on the other hand seem really keen on defending… france, as a country eager for peace…?
I’m glad you asked!
Defending China saying that allegations of Genocide are just lies
Defending Russia’s ludacris negotiation demands
Defending North Korea
Stalin wasn’t that bad of a guy
Standard ableism about Soviet Russia
I could keep going all day. You don’t strike me as a bad type but I cannot allow utter rubbish to be thrown around like that.
The world is not as simple as US/West bad Russia/China good or vice versa. There is a significant amount of nuance that you need to find here.
so you just pulled threads from months ago…
Well, in this thread, as it’s been already pointed out, you’ve engaged in whataboutism to change the subject from russia to France. It’s only a small step above a kid’s “NO YOU!” level of argumentation.
Is France’s imperialistic history deplorable? Yes. But by the end of the year they will have pulled out from all but 2 countries with which they had defense agreements, as opposed to russia which is increasing presence in the same countries, in addition to the countries in which it already had a presence. So it’s actually russia that has potentially more troops in Africa, but I can’t find actual numbers to confirm since it’s in russia’s best interest not to declare those.
So yeah, how can you compare a country that leaves when it’s uninvited to russia which is actively shelling a sovereign nation on top of doing the same shit in Africa as all the other imperialists?
i didnt change subjects, i pointed out the hypocrisy. i have been firm on this goalpost the entire thread.
france is STILL imposing the CFAF on what, maybe a dozen african countries right now? this is blatant 19-century style colonialism still. how do you think the french power their squeaky-clean, super-progressive nuclear reactors when their last mine was closed in the early 2000s? where did they get the raw materials to be an industrial superpower?
this goes SO much deeper than just the preparations for ww3. if you think russians are worse, i should go back a few comments in this thread and urge you to ask french-speaking africans about it yet again. ask them why some revolted recently and why western media is saying NOTHING about it.
i’m actually enjoying the conversation but ill have to leave, so have a nice day.