AugustWest

Been using fedora on a laptop for a year with no command line intervention.

I don’t mind the command line, but it has been uneccesary.

Almost all maintenance tasks and fixes on windows come back to the command line. So I have no idea why people keep bringing it up about Linux.

I got blocked by someone here for the same idea that I thought was balanced: it is a useful tool, it makes it easy to share how to do something.

That’s it. Use it if you want, or don’t, but it’s not a negative thing. And I too don’t advocating sitting up at night reading man pages or anything…

Why do people keep saying this? If you don’t want to use the command line then don’t.

But there is no good reason to say people shouldn’t. It’s always the best way to get across what needs to be done and have the person execute it.

The fedora laptop I have been using for the past year has never needed the command line.

On my desktop I use arch. I use the command line because I know it and it makes sense.

Its sad people see it as a negative when it is really useful. But as of today you can get by without it.

Lol, yep. It’s always funny to see xfce as being light weight.

Is this where I continue the meme and say I use arch by the way?

On the other hand KDE discover… Yikes. The software manager uses as much memory as XFCE.

The surprising thing is that KDE would run on there just fine too. If you don’t add all the PIM stuff, it’s almost a wash in memory usage and just as snappy.

KDE. Been upgrading the same environment for 5 years just keeps getting better.

I started around maybe KDE 3?

Why would it? It’s a photo editing tool, not a drawing tool.

Oh so this is not a photoediting class I thought. So I launched Krita. And everyone laughed when they realized Photoshop was the wrong tool for the job.

We had icecream.

How was the gnome registry some how worse? Microsoft didn’t even have a document that could describe how theirs worked, much less an organizational structure. At least Gnomes was basically simple words and categories. And they built a settings manager for it too.

Not that I use gnome much, but still this is silly.

It may work, but it also may fuck up something else. I run into that a lot with users and windows. How do they fix it or get rid of it? Say hello to our friend regedit!

My example wasn’t literal, I have had to do similar things for drivers, sound, USB, search etc. And windows support is just randos telling you what they think might work.

As to your second point, the sane applies as windows is a collection of who knows that the hell software and random hardware. Which hardware? What driver? What vendor?

There are hordes more people on Windows and Mac

Because it came with their computer. I have not used a command line at all on two laptops over the past year. It is the exception not the rule these days.

However I have had to use the command line many, many times with Windows. Which is fine, it is MUCH easier to do this “Set-ExecutionPolicy -Scope CurrentUser -ExecutionPolicy Unrestricted” instead of trying to find the gui to deal with it.

I forgot that I would have to look in the columns for disk space, or that I would have to click on it. In dolphin the disk space is shown on the left panel without needing to click on anything. That is why I was confused.

A quick overview of all the drives and mounted drives? That is in the left panel for me, with device sizes. Right click to copy or move? We have that too.

Mount a drive? That one is interesting because of the underlying os. You can open a local network share, right click and add it to the left panel. It will then be available anytime you want to work with it. You can also add foreign shares, such as SFTP which I do not think windows can do.

This one though: showing disk size and usage which you CAN do in Dolphin, I do not think is part of windows natively. What settings do you do to show those?

Another reminder: these, and all the detention facilities are privately owned and for profit. The motivation is to have a full house to maximize profits.

You have to be joking right? Windows file manager is one of the worst.

Lets see: Windows 11 finally got tabs. About time after we have had them for I don’t even remember how long.

• Where is split view so I can have side by side comparison?
• Where is greenbar highlighting so I know at a glance seperation of each row?
• Where is the terminal emulator panel if I want to run a command?
• Why is the right click menu so damn shitty and not have a quarter of the useful functions? And decent customization?
• Can I tag rate and comment directly on files?
• Lets not forget batch renaming.
• Windows has no integration with other services out of the box, and the add ons are a mess.

Here is one that drive me absolutely up the wall with windows: why can I not see the amount of free space on the drive I am working on?

It is in the right corner in my file manager. Click again and it will tell me the free space of all the partitions. Click again and I can open filelight. It is displayed in gigs AND in a graphical at a glance line.

I put up with windows file manager, but it is quite possibly the worst one I can think of. What feature are you missing?-

I use Arch (obligatory)

But I run Fedora with KDE on a chrome book and a low end laptop. There has been zero admin stuff to do. Everything has worked out of the box, updates are uneventful, and surprisingly packages have at times been ahead of Arch.

Also worth mentioning that the Desktop of my Steamdeck is stable as can be too. I use it when I travel with a portable keyboard and I never have to do anything with it either.

I would use Debian, Suse, nearly ANYTHING except Ubuntu. That is the one that always fails for me.

you want a full featured, advanced file manager or something

Which means you are shit out of luck in windows, but comes by default in Plasma. Go figure.

GUIs exist for a reason.

What is that reason? To obfuscate what is really happening? To make it difficult to support a computer because it takes 20 pages of pictures and a flow chart to explain something when a person could just copy paste a single line? I don’t buy that gui’s are easier or intuitive, or all that useful every time.

I don’t see any difference googling using a decent search engine for one over the other.

And lets not forget that windows is a confusing mess of self help support pages and command line entries for almost everything that goes wrong.