A woman in Colorado has been arrested after police caught her with expIosives at a TesIa dealership, police said.

The 40-year-old suspect, Lucy Grace Nelson, was arrested on Monday after the Loveland Police Department launched an “extensive investigation” following a series of vandaIizations at the dealership in Loveland, Colorado.

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      In the eyes of the law a Molotov cocktail carries the same penalties as a pipe bomb, both “unregistered Destructive Devices”. It’s the ATF’s bailiwick so it’s not unusual that the feds are involved, strictly speaking.

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      And upgraded to federal charges. Kash Patel is spending government resources on this for his partisan buddy instead of rightwing extremists and insurrectionists.

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              Turns out that the far right wingnuts never ever gave a fuck about children when they started up with the Pizzagate/Qanon/“Save the Children” horseshit.

              They just thought it would be a battering ram to be used to round up all the Democrats and Hollywood celebrities they love to hate. I bet many of these dickheads are still dreaming of “The Storm”, and now that Bronzo 2.0 is here, they just might get it, sadly.

              Meanwhile, ACTUAL child trafficking they clearly don’t give a flying fuck about, when it comes to how they treat Gaetz, Tate, and Bronzo himself.

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          She used molotov cocktails and only did $5,000 in damage? I was really expecting to hear a few hundred Gs based on tesla’s prices and the cars I’ve seen go up in flames in the past.

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      Unpopular opinion inbound: Property destruction of any kind is bad, bombs or molotovs or broken windows. It represents lost productivity and unnecessary environmental damage. You are creating more demand for the same products to be reproduced for no benefit.

      Theft on the other hand…

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        Regarding Nazi property: if it can be turned against them, better; but if not, destruction is second-best.

        The loss of productivity and environmental damage of letting Nazis persist in any fashion far outweigh any value the objects hold on their own.

        The most value we can extract from that trash is the message it sends as it’s burning to the ground.

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      Wow - great way to help our cause!

      All that’s going to do is make some insurance companies more money. If she’s gonna throw her life away she should’ve just gone after Elon lmao

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          Blowing up Teslas at a dealership gives both the dealership and Tesla more money, as well as makes them have to build another one.

          That’s a W for the wrong side, unless you just like seeing aimless destruction

          Edit: like if you really wanna blow shit up, go after Teslas that have already been bought. Make people hate owning them, insurance rates for them go up, etc. Much more effective

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            This is silly. There’s no sustainable way to profit from insurance claims. Whatever short term “profit” Tesla may get from a claim will be wiped out when the insurance companies raise prices to cover it. Insurance companies don’t have unlimited money.

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    Isn’t this exactly what negotiating with labor unions so workers have good quality of life was made to prevent?

    More Americans will become terrorists, and it’s no surprise. They have nothing to loose.

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      Yup. We’re about to see a whole lot more desperate people in this country.

      Things are about to get wild over the next few years.

      And it all could have been prevented by not voting for a traitorous felon rapist.

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    Ok, I need to explain this to people, but don’t blow up or damage Tesla’s at dealerships. Aside from the usual about being socially responsible, the dealers and Tesla loses money when cars can’t sell and are stuck on lots. Tesla can’t sell a dealership a new car if the dealership can’t sell a car and make space for a new one on their lot. But if you blow up or damage the cars, the dealership just claims from their insurance, they get the money as though they just sold a car, and they have lot vacancies, so Tesla can sell the dealership more stock.

    Let the swasticars just sit there and depreciate on the dealership floor. That’s the real way to fuck em.

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        And if Tesla dealerships are significantly higher risk their insurance will go through the roof.

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      If you get rid of the building only though and not the cars, that’s double damage.

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      I don’t think these “dealerships” are independent. Pretty sure they are directly owned by Tesla.

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      Insurance isn’t a magic money machine that erases costs; insurance isn’t free money. This is the logic that results in thieves driving small mom and pop shops out of business. Someone will hold up a gas station thinking, “well, insurance will pay for it.” But every time a business makes a claim, their insurance premiums go up. And just like car insurance, if you make too many claims, eventually you’ll be dropped from coverage, or your premiums will become completely unaffordable. You simply become too great a risk for insurance to cover.

      Honestly, torching a Tesla dealership is likely the quickest way to get it shut down. If you just let the cars sit there, they’ll keep cutting the asking price until they sell. Teslas might be unfashionable, but plenty of people living paycheck-to-paycheck will ignore the bad optics if it means they get a hell of a deal on a new car.

      But if a dealership is burned to the ground? The dealer was probably already resenting being in the business before the arson attack. Most of these guys became Tesla dealers back when Elon had a very different reputation. But now they can’t just walk away; they have contracts, leases to pay, a franchise agreement, and a pile of inventory that won’t sell. Hell, they probably have once or twice contemplated burning the whole place down themselves just to get the insurance money. And now they have the perfect opportunity to walk away, without having to commit felony insurance fraud. Some random do-gooder just came by and did the criming for them. Sure, they could rebuild, but why? They have an insurance check for millions of dollars. They could spend that rebuilding, getting new inventory etc. But why? Why go to all that trouble, just to end up back selling cars people revile?

      I think most people in that situation, unless they were already die-hard MAGA types, would simply chose to take the win and walk away. Maybe they stay in the car business and open up a franchise with some other automaker. Maybe they get out of car sales all together. But there’s little reason to stick with Tesla.

      That’s the real value of arson right now. There are tons of Tesla dealers who would honestly probably welcome an arson attack against their dealership, as long as no one was in the building at the time. They could never say so publicly, but honestly, an arson against a Tesla dealership might be the best thing that ever happened to many of the dealership owners.

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      People don’t want to fly planes because they’re falling out of the sky. A Tesla dealership explosion would’ve done some significant PR damage, and may keep people from visiting them.

      But, you’re right, it seems like Tesla is collapsing on its own without the need of terrorist attacks. But, the nonviolent Tesla graffiti is funny though.

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      But if you blow up or damage the cars, the dealership just claims from their insurance, they get the money as though they just sold a car, and they have lot vacancies, so Tesla can sell the dealership more stock.

      This is only true if you look at events in a vacuum.

      Dealer makes insurance claim, gets money

      Not inaccurate, but the dealership also has to rebuild/shut down for a time after the event for safety reasons. And they’ll be paying more for their liability coverage, especially if they continue to sell cars that are targets for unhappy citizens.

      gets money back as if they sold it

      They may get the sticker/wholesale price for it, but they lose out on various incentives, manufacturer kickbacks, and any interest/financing fees as well.

      Have lot vacancies

      And a fucked up lot, requiring construction crews (which impede business) and probably extra insurance

      Tesla can sell more stock

      Eventually, but the loss in lot space and the delay in getting it back is going to hurt a lot more.

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        Not to mention that it will be increasingly difficult to retain employees if their workplace is a target. If McDonald’s started getting shot up/destroyed because Ronald was a mask-off nazi, I would be into another job ASAP.

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    It was’t explosives

    Nelson returned to Loveland Tesla while in possession of additional incendiary devices, along with materials attributed to vandalism

    Nelson was immediately arrested and booked into the Larimer County Jail after being charged with explosives or incendiary devices use during felony, criminal mischief and criminal attempt to commit a Class 3 felony, authorities said.

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    Outside of one-in-a-billion shots like Mangione, we’re still at the discomfort level of unreliable whackadoos being the only ones to try violent direct action. Which means that instead of picking targets that would actually make an impact, they’re picking personally symbolic targets that they have easy, ready access to. And they’re not even hitting those targets with real success / possibly creating innocent collateral in the process.

    We aren’t there yet.

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      There’s also the simple reality that the vast majority of people cannot dedicate the time and resources it takes to plan and execute the assassination of a CEO or national politician. When you’re working 60 hours a week to keep food on the table for your family you don’t really have a ton a of free time for relentlessly tracking and stalking your target.

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        I’m more worried about right wimg extremists knowing they will be pardoned. They can go after soft targets. Want to bet the suoreme court will say that states can no longer file charges if the feds do? Then the feds can file charges, thepetson can admit guolt and be out the next day. Local and state politicians and activista are in the most danger.

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    Although it appeared first glance to be an explosive device in an awkward moment of enthusiasm, it’s actually just a Roman Celebratory Sparklemaker.

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    This woman is obviously mentally ill. No one in their right mind would repeatedly return to sabotage the same location again and again.