• StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml
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        29 days ago

        Not saying you’re wrong just want to understand youre thinking why would they want riots? Isnt that the only real threat to them?

        • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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          Triggering division as an excuse for suppression is Dictator 101.

          Your political opponents are lawless? That means you can legally crack down on them.

          It has the side benefit of stirring the shit/divisions which is what keeps Trump in place.

        • qprimed@lemmy.ml
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          29 days ago

          trump has been looking to apply the insurrection act since his first term. with the various sycophants in congress and the executive, there has never been a more opportune time (other than tomorrow, of course).

          as to why… well, trump has gotten even more messianic since his first term. suppression of dissent would be a powerplay that may yield significant dividends, showing loyalists the need to stay in the camp and detractors what happens when you resist.

          just my 0.02

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            Thanks to the weakness of our system and certain pathetic losers holding their values and personal ethics over the national security interests of the United States nothing was ever done about trump’s sedition. I will never forgive our previous president for not doing exactly what needed to be done to deal with the DOMESTIC THREAT to the constitution that he was sworn to protect by not eliminating the republican party/scotus/and a certain billionaire. Had our previous president made the ‘tough call’ that presidents are required to make to protect the nation and the constitution then we simply wouldn’t be in this position. I will never believe that our previous president wasn’t briefed on the threat posed by all of this and wasn’t fully aware of everything. There will never be any excusing him allowing things to happen this way. The man was in his 80s even had he been in any legal trouble over this his life is functionally over at this point fuck him for doing nothing when he was the only one who could achieve this on his own.

        • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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          29 days ago

          Authoritarians equate fear with respect. Aggressively putting down a riot makes people scared = people respect them. It is the same reason Putin jails critics inhumanely or Kim kills families of defectors in NK. If people lose their fear of them these despots are powerless.

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          29 days ago

          Enact martial law, take over all legislation, be a dictator. Job done.

          That’s why he’s firing everyone at the top of the military who isn’t a white male.

  • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@lemmy.world
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    A possible motive is to push the power of the executive. If Trump can somehow seize this power, there’s nothing that can stop him.

    That or just trying to embolden the police, but I’m guessing it’s even worse than that.

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      29 days ago

      A gun. A gun can stop him. They work well. American has more guns than people, and a second amendment designed to stop this nonsense when needed.

      It’s needed.

    • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I’d say it’s to embolden police and violent racists, in hope of helping encouraging their race war to destabilize the country so that they can divy it up.

      The interesting lack of forethought from the oligarchic billionaires is that their billions mean nothing without the US dollar and NYSE. Their majority of their hoards of wealth are not backed by anything tangible that could be of use in the event that the US dollar ceases to be relevant. I suppose that this kind of thought isn’t likely to occur to sociopaths that were born with platinum spoons in their mouths.

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    29 days ago

    I think the ultimate goal is martial law, and I think he is unconcerned about what triggers his ability to declare it.

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    29 days ago

    Oh boy. I mean sure, pardon the federal charges.

    He’s still got time he owes Minnesota about 20 years yet. I don’t know what the laws about where he serves are, but I don’t imagine he’ll be placed somewhere better.

  • Wilco@lemm.ee
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    29 days ago

    They just want to cause riots. Trump and Elon are agitators.

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    29 days ago

    Was he convicted federally, or is Musk just generating distractions for the news media?

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        29 days ago

        State charges might have been dropped due to the federal convention so he could possibly still have a state trial

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          29 days ago

          If the charges were dropped then I don’t think they can be re-litigated. That would be double jeopardy.

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              29 days ago

              Why? Dropping the charges would be a court decision so it’s on record that a charge was raised and then dropped.