Summary
Ontario Premier Doug Ford announced a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to 1.5 million Americans in Minnesota, New York, and Michigan, effective Monday, in response to Trump’s trade war.
The measure will generate CA$300,000-400,000 daily to support Ontario workers and businesses, adding about CA$100 monthly to affected American bills.
Ford threatened further increases or complete shutoff if the US escalates, despite Trump’s one-month tariff reprieve.
This action supplements Canada’s CA$30 billion in federal retaliatory tariffs on various American products.
American GDP per capita: $85,000
Canadian GDP per capita: $55,000
American Natural Resources per capita: $150,000
Canadian Natural Resources per capita: $1.1 million
And America thinks that they have been getting taken advantage of?
Quite frankly it’s about damn time that Canada started moving more high value processing in-house. America has been treating us as a resource colony to siphon wealth from forever.
Time to sign trade deals with absolutely everyone else who will sign them and see how America likes it when their cheap resources start flowing elsewhere. They can fuck right off if they think they’ll win a trade war.
Krasnov and his cronies made up the lies about being taken advantage of to hide their true motives, driven purely by imperialism. Its a smoke cover.
Good. We Americans need to learn the lesson that, in fact, we are not, have never been, and cannot be individualists. We are dependent on our neighbors: personally, nationally, and internationally.
We also need to learn that we cannot sustain ourselves by constantly taking: taking from each other, taking from nature, and taking from the future generations. We have become a nation of consumers, not citizens, and that is morally wrong. We expect to take with no consequences, and that’s just not how Earth works.
Very well said.
An American with self awareness. So glad I left corporate shithole Reddit for this place.
This isn’t directed at you specifically but at anyone who comes across these comments, and I’m including this information here because it directly influenced my initial comment above:
I’ve been doing a lot of listening to indigenous worldview and learning of indigenous values. It has really helped me identify where western civilization and culture has been lacking for millennia, but especially over the last few centuries.
I’ve come to understand that the damage starts when we are young when we learn that nature is an “it” without needs and that we cannot rely on or trust other people. We learn to either dominate or make ourselves small in our daily relationships in order to feel safe when we should be seeing the world and one another as gifts to be explored and shared.
It takes some listening and reflecting to figure out that what you’ve been taught is dangerous. I’m currently trying to figure out how I can learn more of these perspectives and also build a stable and trusting community around me.
I think that’s where we need to do the work to try and undo what’s happening both at the national level and in those who are supporting authoritarianism.
I’ll get off my soapbox now, but I wanted to share in case it resonated with anyone else.
Glad to hear that. Any resources you’d recommend? It sounds like a very level headed way to see things.
I guess Bookchin would be a good start. And then some western-compatible Zen, like Peter Ralston. Be sure to trace that stuff back also through your own culture because none has really forgotten it, it’s just been suppressed, before you go all “grass is greener on the other side” and try, often in vain, to adopt foreign forms while you could just as well realise what you already have and put fuel on that ember.
Just a guess at previous reading material: “Ishmael” and “Story of B” by Daniel Quinn?
I haven’t heard of those! Do you recommend?
Hopefully, this will force Krasnov Trump to put in more effort to stop americans smuggling drugs and guns into Canada.
I just can’t believe that I actually agree with something Ford is doing.
And he said if the US retaliated, he will raise it again or full on shut off power if it continues.
This is about the only type of thing that the Fords are actually good at - you can give him credit for it without shame.
Hello Canadians,
Is this actually the brother of the mayor of Toronto that was so high he almost started a fight in the council chamber ?
Ho and was called Canadian Trump ?
Yes. You’ve fucked up so hard with electing Trump than even Canuck Trump is against you.
Should have shut it off entirely
I was thinking the same at first but it might be best to make them give us more money so we can pay for what they are causing.
This also provides room for further escalation. You don’t want to play every card at once just cause it makes a big splash.
Nah, need to leave room to escalate in case Trump thinks he’s in a position to retaliate.
Or just raise the export tariff on electricity by 1% a day. They’ll shut if off themselves when they realize they can’t afford it at a 300% markup.
Lol holy shit can you imagine if orangeboi pisses the Canadians off so bad that they shut off power exports?
I’m not gonna lie - I think the brownouts and blackouts that’d probably be caused by that would be a fantastic object lesson to a lot of people.
Please cut the electricity off all together. -An American
Is Canadian guy fierie the new pm?
Fuck no. He’s the premier of Ontario
Mark Carney is the new PM
New York is a blue state… Not sure how I feel about this. If they had given New York a pass, it may have been more effective.
Most economically relevant states are blue, especially on the border.
The world is not responsible for fixing US politics.
The goal is not to influence red vs blue but to show both our people and yours that we can fight back.
Trump is President in New York just as much as he is President in Kentucky. And as long as New York has not seceded, that will not change, and even if it did, it’s not a free ticket to even having trade relations with the rest of the world.
