I think I saw this meme for the first time in 2017
What’s funny is that, in 2017, the ETH high was something like $12. (It got up to $1300 in 2018)
Now, it’s sitting at $2000 and it’s a “crash”.
The lesson here is to buy the dip and then check back in 5-10 years.
gotta hodl your memes
This is what happens when you don’t use crypto as god intended: purchasing medication from India and subscriptions to indexers.
Purchase Bitcoin right before purchase. Watch the spare change left over go up and down and imagine all the millions you could be winning or losing.
A thousand upvotes? Is this reddit?
1k upvotes here is like the equivalent of 50k on Reddit (probably I’m operating on dated info, who knows how much they screwed with the upvoting system by now lmao)
I didn’t even know the counter could go to 4 digits.
It doesn’t happen often, but when it does it’s the equivalent of going viral around here lol
What’s the exchange rate of Reddit karma to Lemmy nothings?
Reddit karma uses a logarithmic function to determine the karma on a post. The first upvotes give 1 karma each, but the higher the number gets the less karma you get from additional upvotes.
This isn’t even some theory based on observations, the reddit algorithm used to be completely open source so you can see how it works on github (or at least how it used to work 7 years ago).
Front page reddit posts with 50k points most likely have over a million upvotes in reality
Well, at least you won’t find bots farming karma
yet
Why not? Lemmy doesn’t seem bot proof. Quite the opposite really.
Becasue you don’t have much value to farm accounts on Lemmy since you don’t have karma
1,763.64:1
From 97 million active users from reddit vs 55k users from Lemmy.
stonks
I think crypto is good for transactions, not storing money.
Like, crypto in general sucks, but digital anonymous money transfer is almost impossible without it.
The underlying tech is actually very cool and neat, unfortunately it got co-opted by cryptobros and bastardized :(
So energy intensive though. There has to be a less wasteful way to do proof of work
It feels tacky to point this out, but that is just vaginas. The open wallet? What are we doing.
Brother, really? Have you even seen one before? 🤔
They’re obviously made of polygons.
Lara Croft agrees
He must be down bad, have a little heart.
No, man. People are sounding like these prices are fixed, when we’ve seen time and time again that crypto prices are cyclical.
Now’s a time to buy. ETH is at a 50% discount. Your assets would be in a pretty good spot right now if you’d bought Bitcoin in 2017 when it “crashed” to $4000 per unit. I picked up shares of EZBC at an average of $32 a share (currently hovering between $45-$50 in a supposed crash) and XRP at 50 to 75 cents, currently hovering around $2.10.
What you do is invest, and then just forget about it and let those assets sit. Investing is about forward-thinking.
Now’s a time to buy.
Never is it a good time to invest in a ponzi scheme. It’s just a matter of playing “Greatest Fool”.
“Greatest fool” description relies on the precept of its utility or demand returning to zero in a near-future timeframe. If people have utility for “the thing”, that won’t be the case.
There is no utility really, for ponzicoins. You can’t make anything from it. You can use it to make anything. You can’t eat it. You can’t hydrate with it. And you can’t use the notes to summon military aid.
I suppose you can buy drugs with it. Maybe.
So yes, it’s a Greatest Fool game.
Yes, for the limited subset of ERC20s or whatever you describe as “ponzicoins”. Things that actually do nothing, particular on top of L1 cryptos but “this is another token”, are not really adding any value. But I would be really surprised if you can name any more complex contracts than ERC20s, which is where the work in the space actually goes.
“Work”
Yes, work. Smart contracts are designed, programmed and, if they’re done right, rigorously audited for correctness. Then you have user-facing interface and everything surrounding that as well. Look at the documentation of AAVE, for one example.
And this isn’t even getting into the protocol level (L1 or L2) work either. Bitcoin was relatively simple, Ethereum is not. They’ve spent years crafting these systems to function for PoS, L2 support, sharding, rollups, etc., at scale.
Smart contracts are designed, programmed and, if they’re done right, rigorously audited for correctness.
What do these “smart contracts” make? And why do we need to burn up tons of fossil fuels, just to have contracts like we had before?
And how is this better than a typical contract?
Bitcoin was relatively simple, Ethereum is not.
Both are simple ponzi schemes.
They’ve spent years crafting these systems to function for PoS, L2 support, sharding, rollups, etc., at scale.
And all that time, they are still ponzi schemes that do none of the above very well. We’ve had all of that in the merchant payment systems for decades now, all without the need to consume more electricity than many small nations, just to approve a transaction.
Ah yes the price is returning to where it was 4 months ago just like the stock market. So people who have been buying at the peak for the past 4 months might have lost some money. Otherwise it’s still up like 10000000% historically.
Nobody cares except the anti-crypto ideologues with their misinformed memes.
ETH is a massive premine, making you exit liquidity.
Its basically buying silver instead of gold because its “cheap”.
What is an “Ethereum”? Some sort of subscription?
It’s a pretty old cryptocoin: initally released back in 2015, and a significant change deployed in 2022. It was then when they changed from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake, which basically means that they don’t use mining anymore to keep the network running. They use like 1% of energy compared to PoW coins.
Also they have some smart contract capabilities which I suppose Ethereum people think are important. But I’ve never seen any use for that stuff.
It’s only worth $80,000 per token. Nobody gives a fuck! smh.
Also they have some smart contract capabilities which I suppose Ethereum people think are important. But I’ve never seen any practical use for that stuff.
Anything you need complicated multi-party interactions for that you want guarantees on. Real estate escrow comes to mind first. Depository accounts with yield. An immutable archive of records. Multi-signature corporate treasuries. Whatever. It’s programmable money. It’s not even necessarily monetary, because smart contracts can just deal with arbitrary data.
Never impressive to see a technical audience shit all over Ethereum for internet points. By far the least scammy crypto people have actually dedicated years into building something real on.
Would be great if they got some of that out there.
I reckon most of that already is. A real estate escrow smart contract is maybe 200-300 lines long in Solidity, depending of course on what it supports (contingencies and such). You may want to actually go look around, because there’s I don’t know how many millions of lines of Solidity already written. It doesn’t all get as much publicity as NFTs.
The off chain legalities are the tricky part of a real estate crypto deal.
Can changing house ownership really be as simple as making an alterations on a decentralized ledger?
You can mimic any existing setup for tracking deeds and similar, or invent new ones, with the added quality that they can’t be doctored. Once something is recorded, it’s recorded for good.
Blockchain is immutable but legal contracts usually are not. They have break clauses, implied rights etc.
I suspect everything can be implemented correctly, but my doubt isn’t technical, it’s legal.
Think of a smart contracts like a vending machine. You can’t just build one and start selling real things from it. Laws need to be followed.
It’s a decentralized network running a virtual machine.
A cryptocurrency that recently lost a lot of its value
I can’t wait for people to realize they’re all in a pyramid scheme together. I’m sick of hearing bros saying crypto should be part of my portfolio.
I’m sick of not hearing people saying that stocks and the rest of the casino economy are the exact same scam.
I don’t disagree, but there’s at least some capital and speculative value behind those companies. Crypto is straight up arbitrarily finite.
It never had any value, like all other crypto currencies. But it was used to fake value and dupe people out of their money.
Value isn’t necessarily something tangible. It’s what other people think it’s worth. The USD doesn’t have any more value than the belief people put in it. Do you also think it has no value?
I’m not defending crypto speculation, but it’s ignorant to say it doesn’t have value if you can buy things with it. Basically all modern money is based on faith, including crypto. Even when it’s based on gold or silver, that’s aren’t actually useful for most people so it’s still made up value worth however much people value that.
Basically all modern money is based on faith, including crypto.
Ok, sure, however, fiat currencies are based on the faith that there’s at least one entire nation that you can use your currency in, and is motivated to ensure their currency is worth something, and has some semblance of stability. Crypto is based on the faith that there’s other dumbasses out there that will agree with you that these particular bits hold value for some reason.
Crypto is based on the faith that there’s other dumbasses out there that will agree with you
And that’s the most beautiful thing about crypto that got lost in all the speculation, shitcoin, scams, and nft bullshit. A currency of the people for the people, but of course, when the pigs came into power they were the same as the old farmers.
It was always a scam. When people were saying these things, that was part of the scam.
There are good uses for the blockchain, just not really with currency.
Keep telling yourself that crypto is a scam with no value, etc… While you loyally and unquestionably use your green paper money covered in pictures of slave masters.
Eh, it’s also the thing that makes it so vulnerable to speculation, shitcoin, scams, and nft bullshit
I’m sorry, but at this point I honestly have more faith in the latter than the former. I just don’t have any faith in America at all.
Ok I’m talking about fiat currency as a concept though, not the USD specifically.
If your point is that fiat currencies are still vulnerable to some instability, then sure, I guess I agree, but fiat currencies are still orders of magnitude more stable than cryptocurrencies.
If a state converted from paper money to crypto, the only discernible differences would be like more computers, more transparency, less middlemen, etc. Crypto is literally just a new (distributed, open) form of accounting.
I don’t think it’s worth the discussion, but comparing a fiat currency like the US dollar with crypto currency is a false equivalence argument. They aren’t even comparable.
The usd has value created by virtue of being backed by the usa government. It is not just faith based.
With the current administration, I’d argue we are definitely in “faith based” money right now.
It was originally based on a gold reserve and then taken off to become a fiat currency. Trump is talking about potentially not paying back debts owned to other governments. Definitely sounds faith based to me, there’s nothing hard backing it.
That’s completely meaningless and worthless though, especially since that racist empire is literally destroying the planet with its petrol-dollars.
Money does not run on morals.
True, but that isn’t contradictory. The point is value of both of these forms of currency are made up and imaginary. They’re valuable as long as someone is willing to purchase it.
The same is true for gold. People think it has intrinsic value, which is why it’s so easy to scam people with. The value is almost entirely based on people thinking it’s valuable though.
I don’t like crypto-currencies. It “not having value” isn’t the correct argument to use against it though. It’s a pretty stupid one. There are plenty of good arguments that should be used instead.
They’re valuable as long as someone is willing to purchase it.
Government based fiats always has the guarantee that the government will accept them to settle your taxes.
So, as long as the government exists, there’s a buyer for the currency.
Not the case with made up ponzicoins.
Basically all modern money is based on faith,
Wrong.
Fiat currencies are based on military might, not hopes and dreams.
Yo, don’t be bad-mouthing our soon-to-be currency. Scams and money laundering were never this easy.
Ethereum is a petroleum based lube used in gay porn. When multiple dudes double dock during an orgy, that’s called a block chain. The ethereum on their foreskins creates an immutable ledger.
So what’s a hard fork?
God damn! Have a little sensitivity lol
