Plant some dang trees for starters, unless it’s only going to be land used for farming.
I vote for the dang trees. I like trees.
Ain’t nobody speaking for them dang trees so lend a hand and give em a voice.
Even then, dynamic agroforestry would be nice.
At least a wind block on the edges
Orchard farming, just add more tree
For now? Lease as much of that land as you can. Cover crop the rest. You do not want bare, tilled soil sitting there for a year+ as you figure out bigger plans.
Lease as much of that land as you can.
Careful. The Lemmy mob is watching 👀
Ha. Anyone who’s farmed knows that ag leases are such a different scenario and very negotiable, especially if you are working with someone who wants to see the land in production or help young farmers etc. I WISH there had been more willing landlords when I was farming, it took me two years to find a place at all. Lemmings can hate once they’ve negotiated their own ag lease 👀 👩🏻🌾
Mmmmm local grown food and a landlord!? 🍽️ 🍽️ 🍽️
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No answer here, just wanted to say you inadvertently wrote one of the most interesting geolocation challenges I’ve seen.
Are you interested in helping with this challenge? :D
I might try finding it later but still no idea what to do with the field, sorry :p
Looks like Türkiye to me.
Plant something ASAP on that naked land or it will all be carried away by rain and wind.
Looks like someone was farming it before, OP should contact them first since they will know about the potential and problems. Maybe make a percentage-of-profits deal rather than a lease. The timing is good for a crop, if they move quickly.
Or rewild it with native plants. Maybe some young trees on the windward edge, and seeds for a meadow
Plant whatever everybody around this area is planting and ASAP. He can think about what to do next year, but not this one.
You can still plant something on it, but you have to be fast if you want to harvest it. Alternatively you could plant grass/clove on it and the figure out what to do with the land afterwards.
However, if you want to do a “split profits” deal you have to make sure, that you dont take to much for yourself, because most farmers won’t do this if leasing it is actually cheaper. Also it might be hard to get someone to lease it for a single year and at this time most stuff is already planted which makes it even harder.
Build a large wall around the entire perimeter of the property.
Construct a tall stone tower in the middle of the property and paint it completely matt black.
Poison the land around the tower, so nothing, not even grass can grow.
Have packs of wild, feral dogs roam the property.
Dress in dark grey robes, and spend the rest of your days on the top of the tower, screaming obscenities at any passers-by, or shaking your fist angryly at the sky.
*Mount a fiery red spotlight at the top of the tower and move the beam randomly around the property in case of hobbits
Move the stone wall out each night and slowly claim more land like an insidious virus
You also need to move the stone fence out each night to expand your domain
Plant potatoes. Charge rich families to come out and harvest potatoes as a “total farm experience”. Sell them as a “rustic handgrown” crop.
Take the profit and buy a shit ton of meth and smoke until your heart explodes. Die with a smile as you escape late stage capitalism ✨️
And they would totally dig that shit up and call it an experience too. Do it.
Unfortunately though I think OP being an hour from an airport is gonna preclude tourists from being a financial factor in the area.
And there was so much meth to be had…
Good marketing can sort that out. You call the experience “authentic” and hire some attractive actors to do a couple photo shoots. Maybe add a shuttle and a little café like touristy vineyards do. And if you’re really good you can figure out a way to get the tourists to make meth for you. Say they have to bring certain ingredients with them, in addition to the crazy expensive entry fee.
💫Ascention💫
This is also what I suggested (not exactly but about the same concept). Biggest problem might be, that its maybe a bit far off from the next city.
Sell it and remember that you first figure out what you want and then you buy the suitable land for it.
How close are you to high voltage transmission lines? This might be good for an commercial sized solar farm.
There’s a solar farm 1km away. I heard here it would require like $1m of investment and it pays for itself in 7 years but that’s above my pay grade AFAIK
I mean…
So do 1/10th of that. 100k pays for itself in 7 years? Still have 9/10 of your land to play with.
Just a thought. turnkey operations are geist for land ownership.
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Sounds like it’d be relatively easy to get a loan or investor with that kind of ROI. Seven years is nothing if it’s consistent and safe.
Is there a reason you’d have to go all-in, rather than starting with just a couple dozen panels first?
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Did you check that you’re actually allowed to build and live there? Depending on where that is (i guess left out on purpose), you can’t simply decide to build a house in a field.
Yes I can build 250m2 of house here but that would kill land’s future investment potential (organized industrial area expansion is the development play here)
So instead I plan to use tents to host people if I ever do something here
Though, I guess I can build sheds if they are easy/cheap to remove. I don’t know much about construction
That might be illegal if it’s not zoned for residential. That’s how it works in the USA.
250m2 of permanent structure is legal. Non-permanent structure (tiny houses with wheels, tents) of any size is also legal.
Hypothetically maximum residential development here might be something like 25,000 m2 of apartments, which can be sold for +$1000/m2. That would be very be illegal. Also, this area would be zoned as industrial, not residential (after 2040-2050)
I’m just dreaming. Let’s say I created a nice community here and offered cool activities like woodworking, gardening, meditation, yoga, massages, weightlifting, social dancing, soccer or some sport, community dinners. I don’t know the cost* of doing all that but say I get on Booking for $10/night. Hosting 1 person per 100 m2 means 250 people :D I think it would be a no brainer to pay $300/mo for all those activities and to be around nice healthy likeminded people. Depending on the quality of the community, people might be willing to pay up to $1000/mo imo.
*toilet & shower, sleeping tent, mattress & pillow & bedding, solar panel & powerbank, desk & chair, co-working tent, transportation costs, security, food, drinking water… I’d have to somehow transport poop out of here or make poop disappear
Alternatively, I might want to do this in mediterranean region. It would be easier to market, right? Idk if I can rent someone’s land to do this tho?
Make poop disappear? You’re thinking of a porta-potty or like the toilets they have in national parks that are basically just giant pits that get pumped out by shit trucks every so often.
Regenerative Agriculture / Permaculture
If you plan to lease out to a farmer, find one that won’t fill it with herbicides and pesticides. And maybe look to only lease part of it while you work to recover other parts.
I’m looking to buy land that needs to be recovered and have the budget that will likely lead me to a place like this that doesn’t have direct road access. Good luck!
Do nothing, watch nature claim it back.
Does leasing the land pay enough to make it worthwhile? Gives you time to think.
If it’s fertile land you should probably use it, or lease it, to grow food.
Farming is not easy. Until you learnt to be good at it you’ll put in a lot of hours into making not much money after costs have been paid.
Sex shack
Tell you what not to do. I did the same and built an Rv park. Well so far that been a bust. They only work where they’re lots of people. Also farming is an idea but only for your personal use. Farming for profit is a no win game. Depending on where this is located will decide what you can do with it. Also zoning.
I’d go to jail probably
Who or what are you planning on having sex with?
What happens on the farm, stays on the farm 🫡
That’s why you get your cult followers to give you all their money, so you can afford lawyers, they can’t, and the other followers can be readily coerced into placing social pressure on any dissent. This is about YOU, the work is about YOU, everything is about YOU and it always has been.
Start a cult
how
Attract people with the true promise of very cheap, simple, communal living, free from the pressures of capitalist society, a shared belief system, and/or a common ideology.
Offer free workshops on useful skills like food storage and survival techniques, meditation, prayer, self-sufficiency, trauma counseling and drug and alcohol rehabilitation
Restrict calories by setting meal times and durations.
Make sure there is enough work so that everyone is busy all the time
Restrict movement by having mandatory meetings, meditation sessions, or chores at particular times throughout the day so nobody has time to go to town.
Erode individual identity with common dress, common food, common hairstyles etc.
Identify and keep track of individual weaknesses (Trauma, parental issues, weight insecurity, financial insecurity, fear of failure, fear of abandonment mental illness), key motivations (Financial stability, seeking to be apart from society, seeking happiness), basic desires (financial security, relationship security, being part of a community, sex)
Make extensive use of seed phrases and formal speech rules so that people censor their own speech. EG People cannot speak to children and vice versa without a parent present (very handy if you take in runaways that have no parents), unmarried men and women may not be alone together except when courting, new members must have a guide/buddy/chaperone/mentor/elder present with them at all times for the duration of their probation.
Maintain division by requiring individuals to report non-conformity by others, make non-reporting of non-conformity a punishable act, and make non-conformity a poorly defined and easily applied term, so that everyone is guilty, and you as the leader get to pick and choose who is punished.
Punishments are gentle tightening of above restrictions - more work, less food, less interpersonal contact, less free time, more proselytizing etc.
Reward extravagantly those who recruit others, using free time, more food, more freedom, sex with other members as a reward.
Reward extravagantly revenue-generating activities, manufacturing, labor, producing food, donating money or assets, or illicit income such as burglary and shoplifting .
Enjoy your cult.
You forgot some important aspects:
People will have to give you all their belongings. They will have nothing if they ever want to leave. This can be done by making them pay for the workshops, with levels each more expensive then the other, making them not wanting to give up since they are already this far in and makes them give you everything they have to reach the next level. They must do so, otherwise they won’t have true devotion and they will risk punishment and have fear of being expelled. Look at Scientology, NXIVM.
They need to break ties with friends and relatives. Isolate them, so they have no one to return to if they ever want to leave. True isolation, with only you to lead them. They cannot trust anyone else, they cannot trust themselves. Only you. Again, Scientology.
Reward and punish them, but haphazardly, you don’t want to be predictable. This way they will do anything to get rewarded and are super scared to be punished. Break them down mentally, then build them up again according to your strict plan. Controlling their food and sleep helps (deprive them). They will follow you blindly and give up everything. See the documentary Stolen Youth on Hulu.
What many cults do wrong, is not having a business plan. You need income, so make them work for something you can sell. See the documentary Wild Wild Country on Netflix, they did this perfectly. You have basically free labor so you can compete in many markets.
And don’t forget you need good propaganda. You need new members, they need to think everything is super happy and they will learn new things about themselves (they will, after you break them first). Have a PR division, don’t be scared to pay someone properly to do this. Look at NXIVM, Scientology.
There’s a documentary about NXIVM called:
- The Vow.
Documentaries listed above:
- Wild Wild Country
- Stolen youth
Other documentaries to watch:
- Love has won, the cult of mother god
- The way down
- Escaping utopia
- Raël
- The deep end
- Breath of fire
- The program
- Escaping twin flames
- Kumaré
- Prophet’s prey
Marketing.
But first you need the idea. I’d say leftwing based religious science compatible apocalyptics is an untapped market. So basically make a bunker commune for societal collapse based on climate change and say all the current right wing politicians are demons accelerating it to bring upon hell on earth, and that oil is the devil’s blood.
Just off the top of my head that’s an idea.
There’s a significant number of Evangelicals who believe “Left Behind” is predictive of the future rather than being a super anti-semitic take on the Christian end times. Those idiots are accelerating the end times in hopes of being saved. You don’t need demons you already have these racist dummies.
If I knew how I’d already have a cult of my own. I hear being charismatic is a prerequisite
Sell 1x1 foot squares of it in a vending machine at a random gas station in the middle of nowhere.
With a hidden rent fee.
Imagine you get like 200 of those bought at random across the land, and no more, then you try to do something with the remaining land!
Chess, except each piece is a bishop of the same color
I would totally buy a gapcha token for one 1x1^2ft of inaccessible land from a vending machine.
This is why it’ll sell, people like obscure shit.
